Meeting in Poland on 23 and 24 January 2016
Part 17

Questions and answers

Continuation of the topic on objects.

Rositsa Avela: I asked Presence of the One following question: What happens if we sell our item to a person who has lost his purity? And what if we lend it to him to use it?

The answer was: If the item is sold there isn't a problem, but if you lend it to be used then you may experience an energy drain of different amounts and volume. Also, the item may become a 'dead' object if it is used for a long time that for each object may be different, as it depends on the energy strength of the user. Whether he is karmically burdened Light being, or he is a representative of one of the networks of the illusion and which one of them exactly.

When the one to whom the object was lent for usage is representative of the new network of illusion, then it is best to sell it later. Regardless of whether the one may treat you or pay for that he was using the object.

The same applies when a person borrows items without knowing their true owner, what is his nature and which energy network he represents. The degree of harmfulness of the result for him would depend on that.

From now on, knowing that news, everyone would decide for himself whether to lend his belongings or learn to refuse lending them. Also, whether he would borrow items from others, especially if he lacks information (literally: clairvoyance) which exactly (energy) network represents the person who wants to borrow or lend the item.

Participant 1: I have a question about the software programs. Operational systems, computer programs – these are also objects. If the programmer who creates them has lost his purity and the person who uses them is pure, and that is the only product, which he needs, and no one else produces it, what is the effect of that?

Rositsa Avela: When a pure person uses the product, the product drains his energy, while he works with it. An object works as translator/relay regardless of whether it is physical object or software.

Participant 1: What if a person can not sell the software to free himself from it because it was made to order and no-one else need it?

Rositsa Avela: Then, he could stop using it and before that to order another person to prepare same or similar product. And when he got a new one to destroy the old one. That's the next thing that is best to be done when there is no opportunity for something to be sold. If some person was able to create that software, there must be another man who can create that software as well, but who is pure. And until that happens, the user may limit himself and work as little as possible with the software he has.

These are personal choices. Everyone decides for themselves as well as depending on the degree of harmfulness of item. If there is no other option, a person may also change his job, to retrain and start to work something completely different, safer, that would give him energy instead of draining it. I mean that when a person works and gives the best of himself in his work, his creative energy is multiplied, he is healthy and feels good. And that energy remains in him and is it useful for him if he works with pure objects and the people around him – co-workers and supervisors, are pure as well.

Participant 2: At work, I use an illegal software on the company’s computer with the approval of my boss. What happens?

Rositsa Avela: If a man says to his immediate supervisor, regardless is he the business owner or someone hired for that position that it is best to purchase the software, which is used during the work and that is not done then working with these products would be without harm for the man. In terms of receiving a negative karma from the owner of that software. That karma would be received by the owner of the company, by the supervisor if he failed to notify the owner of the company, as well as by the other employees in the company who use the software which failed to warn that it would be better to buy the software they use to work.

However, if the owner of the program, which is used during the work has lost his purity or the program was produced by such a person then while working with that program, a person loses his life energy in all cases, regardless of whether it has been paid for the program or not. That is an entirely different effect.

Participant 2: So it is better without illegal programs on your home computer?

Rositsa Avela: Yes. At home and work, if that is his own business and the purchase of these programs depends on him – if he wants to stop to burden himself karmically.

However, if a person has to do something important in order to move forward and acquire new skills in his work, as that directly affects his and his family's livelihood, but the legal software is very expensive and lacks the financial possibility to buy it at the moment regardless of whether he uses it at home or at work in his own business then he could continue to use it for some time, but first he should say:

'Lord, forgive me and help me earn money needed to purchase the software I need, for which I thank You!' And when that time comes to do it.

Until then, he will use it to make a living. But actually he pays for its illegal use, without knowing that. He pays with his energy, which is used for transmuting of the received karma from the owner of the program, which he uses without paying for it. However, by expressing his desire to purchase it when he got that opportunity, he would get less karma than if he uses it without any such intention.

In these cases whatever you do there will always be some harmful effect, so it is best to choose the lesser evil. It is like that when one lives in the illusion and according to its rules. Just like in the case when a man is faced with the choice whether to load himself with karma with unknown type and volume from an unknown person by using illegal foreign software products because he lacks the financial capabilities to purchase it at the moment or to remain without work and livelihood for himself and his family.

Quite different is the case when one uses such products for his own pleasure and fun without paying for them. Then the volume of the received foreign karma – karma of the owner of the object being used, is the greatest.

Participant 1: What happens when someone earns his money by using illegal software programs and the producer of these programs has lost his purity or belongs to the network of the darkness?

Rositsa Avela: He gets the full package.

Participant 1: I see. It's clear now – so the one gets both negative karma and energy drain from his Divine energy.

Rositsa Avela: Yes.

Participant 3: That's a disaster! It is better to live in isolation.

Rositsa Avela: Yes, but you need to feed your wife and children?

Participant 1: If someone earns his money through the usage of an illegal software, and he has the money to pay for it, but he doesn't do it, is the negative karma of the producer taken from those who use the product that this man produces if similarly, they do not pay for that (secondary) product?

Rositsa Avela: Yes, these third parties get from the negative karma of the person who used the foreign software without paying for it to create his software, which the third parties use without paying for it and from the negative karma of the owner of the program that was illegally used initially, although in a smaller volume, but they will get from it too.

Participant 1: From the author of the software product point of view of – if his product is used by other people illegally is he released from his negative karma? Does his karma go to those who are using his programs by piracy?

Rositsa Avela: Yes, of course.

Participant 1: Taking of karma from the producer of the software stops if the user of the software purchase it, right?

Rositsa Avela: Yes, it stops. The karma is transferred due to the theft.

Participant 1: So if I do not pay, I get karma from the author while using the product?

Rositsa Avela: Yes, you will get some. That way, you pay. Everyone chooses exactly which way to pay.

The negative karma of the author of the software is taken by everyone who uses it illegally without paying for it. Through the payment of money, it is interrupted the energy connection with the author, and the person is liberated from further karmic burden from him.

Participant 1: If the software is free and the author says that you may pay for it, but that is not mandatory, then will you take his karma?

Rositsa Avela: If the author himself gives the possibility his program to be used free of charge and allows the user to choose whether to pay or use the program for free according to their ability then it is without karmic burden.

But do you know what happens to someone who chooses the option to use the program for free? The following happens: That is a kind of donation which the author of the software gives to everyone who wants to use it. But when a person takes advantage of the donation without giving something in return, even the smallest thing, then the one who donated gets the opportunity to drain from his vital energy, his Divine energy. The person has given access to it himself! Because the Law of equivalence applies with full force.

If someone gives something, he has the right and gets something in return regardless of whether it is in materiality or spirituality. If someone thinks that it is possible not to pay and he will get benefits by failing to pay in materiality, then he may lose much more in spirituality, and the loss is much more valuable than if he would paid the money.

That is the case with all software programs that are available for use free of charge by the owner. Then it is a personal decision what to do and how to pay.

If a person uses software products available free of charge by their owner, the best thing he could do is to find out who their owner is exactly and send him some donation, in turn, some amount of money, however small. Even if the amount of donated money is symbolic, it will be enough to interrupt the energy connection with the owner, so that the program may be used harmlessly and free afterwards. A man may also pay through his work, for example, by proposing an improvement of the program or notify its owner of its shortcomings, i.e. helps him to improve it.

As I have said, a person may pay by both his money and his work, including to give them as a gift in return for the gift that was received. That way, he prevents the possibility of being drained, i.e. that terminates the possibility that someone who has given him a gift would treat himself at his expense without his knowledge.


To be continued.