Meeting in Poland on 23 and 24 January 2016
Part 24

Foreign things (continuation)

As it was already said, an item belongs to a person, and he becomes its owner only if he has paid for it with his own money, work or gave his own item or something else in exchange, or has received it as heritage.

In the family, there are many possible ways in which the question of ownership of the items is solved. It depends on whether the item is intended for common use by all in the family or personal use by one of the family members, and also whether it was purchased with common family money or with personal funds of one of the members of the family.

That is a very important subject, and therefore it is discussed in detail.

Imagine the following – one of the parents has money, the other and their children lack such. The one who has money buys for others what everyone needs and that is all natural and right. But if in return the kids just play and study, that is to say doing only their personal affairs without doing work in the family for joint activities, for the good of the whole family, then the items that were purchased as their personal items are foreign items for them. And these items will remain a personal property of the parent who bought them. The same applies to the other spouse. If he/she is without own resources and also without the possibility of working for the family, for example, unemployed, but for a few days went to another home to care for a sick parent and at that point his/her spouse buys him an item for a personal use, which is needed for example a toothbrush – that the item would be foreign thing for the one for whom it is bought and who uses it.

However, if that family member who has money and buys for others their personal belongings is very burdened with karma or is representative of the network of the darkness and at the time of purchase of these items the others members of the family live without working for the good of the family in exchange for that item, for example, to work in the household, when they use the items that were purchased for them, their energy will be taken away through the item they use and that energy will go to the one who bought the item and who is the real owner of these items.

That is the Lord's law. It works regardless of whether people know it or not.

You see for yourself what kind of damage and distortion the illusion can cause when children live without working in their family. Therefore, the upbringing of children in work for the welfare of the family is one of the important parental responsibilities – as important as the obligation to raise their children and buy them what is necessary for their growth. The child must work in the family and help parents when grown up enough to be able to do so, even from an early age – according to his ability, of course.

 

You understand the importance of the issue now:

'Whose property are the items, from the Lord's point of view?'

 

Items in the family are in two categories, which are further subdivided depending on whether they are personal or foreign:

1. Items for common use, which are divided into

blue-dotItems for common use that are a common family property;

blue-dotItems for common use in the home, which are foreign property;

2. Items for personal use, which are further subdivided into:

blue-dotItems for personal use that are a personal property of the one who uses them;

blue-dotForeign personal items, that is to say, items for personal use that are however a foreign property.

 

The following options are possible for the items being shared in the family with regards to their ownership:

1. Items purchased by spouses with common family money for common use or consumption in the family are a joint family property, and everything is fine.

2. Items for common usage given as a gift from a person who is outside the family circle. However close to the family, that person is, if the family members failed to repay him with work or give him something in return, even the smallest thing, that is to say, to exchange items as gifts or to pay at least a symbolic amount, these items are foreign property in their home. The same applies to all things for common use that had accidentally come at their home without knowing from where, and who owns them. They are also foreign things in the house.

3. Items for common use or consumption in the family that are purchased by one spouse with his personal money, become a family property only when:

blue-dotthe other spouse and the children are without their own resources, but in exchange, they work for the good of the family;

blue-dotthe other spouse and the children have their own resources and participate in the purchase of the common family item;

blue-dotthe other spouse and the children buy something else for common use in the family, even if it is the smallest thing.

The best option is the first point. Regardless of how much money earns everyone in the family, it is best to separate a considerable part of the income of those family members who do make money, for example in a separate box and everyone in the family would consider these as a common family money that is used for common family expenses and the purchase of items for common use and consumption.

 

It's more complicated with items for personal use by the family members – spouses and their children. In that case, there are also several possible options for the ownership of an item that defines whether that item is a personal property of its holder or it is a foreign item with all the consequences for the person who uses it.

Items for personal use become a personal property in the following 3 cases:

1. When the family members buy with their own money belongings for personal use, these items are their own property, and that is the best option.

2. Personal belongings of each of the spouses that are purchased or given as a gift by the other spouse when the one to whom they are purchased works in exchange for the well being of the family and is without personal resources or sufficient personal resources, become personal property of the one to whom they were purchased.

3. The items for personal use by children, which are purchased by their parents and other people who raise them – relatives, adoptive parents, when children are young or when they grow up, but are without opportunity to buy for themselves what they need with their own money, are also personal property of the children, although the item was bought by someone else – a close relative, but only if:

blue-dotChildren work for the welfare of the family when they are grown up enough to be able to work and help their parents according to their abilities. Babies are an exception to this rule;

blue-dotChildren are less than 28 years old when they reach the age of majority in spirituality and are still without their own created family. If they have their own family before they reach the age of 28 years, they are considered to have reached the age of majority in spirituality since the moment of the creation of their family.

Such items – purchased by one spouse for the other or by parents for children when they are without their own resources to purchase these, are considered personal property of the husband/wife/children, that is to say they are personal property of the person for whom they were purchased, when he/she works in exchange for the well being of the family. It is quite normal and rightly to be so since the spouses, and their children are a united entity before the Lord, and they are in a common energy field – if one of them receives something without giving something else in return that affects all of them badly.

Participant 1: Therefore, if a child is raised by grandparents for three months during the summer holidays, but during the school year he lives with his parents, items that grandparents bought him in the summer are his personal property, right?

Rositsa Avela: Yes, if he worked and helped them.

Participant 1: What about the Christmas gifts from his grandmother and grandfather?

Rositsa Avela: These will be foreign things for the child because at that time he already lives with his parents and is without the opportunity to help in the household of grandparents. But if the child or his parents give in exchange some gifts to grandparents, then the gift of grandparents become a personal property of the child.

 

The items for personal use are foreign things in the following cases:

1. These are foreign things for the children before they reach the age of majority in spirituality:

blue-dotItems given as a gift by people outside the circle of parents and closest relatives who raise them, for example, gifts on birthdays and other holidays, if parents or child miss to give these people something in return;

blue-dotAll items purchased and given as a gift by the closest relatives, including parents, with their money when children have their own personal resources for ordering these items, but these resources are not used. That case covers the situations where the child is grown up, working, earning well before reaching 28 years and is still without his own family, or when the child might be very little, but receive an inheritance or payment for his work as an artist, singer, musician, painter, etc. If the child has his money (for example from an inheritance, film acting, etc.), it would be better if the parents buy him personal belongings with this money.

2. The same applies to spouses – foreign items among the personal belongings are the following categories:

All items given as a gift or donated by anyone outside the family, if nothing was paid of given in return or to do some work in exchange.

When one spouse has his own money and the other buys an item for him/her, that item is considered a foreign item if the one who received it fails to give something in return, even the smallest thing.

If a member of the family has his money, it is best from the Divine point of view to buy the items for his personal use with this money. If one of the spouses is without his/her own money, the other spouse should buy the items. If children are without their own money, their parents should buy their own personal items and these will be their property, but only if the children also work for the welfare of the family, if they are sufficiently grown up to be able to do so and according to their abilities.

In the past, young children worked more for their family and that way the energy for their care and purchases returns to their parents. That is right from the Divine perspective. However, if the children just sit at the computer and play games without helping and working something in the house and their parents buy their personal items, these items are foreign items for the child with all possible harmful consequences for him.

 

Participant 2: There is a tradition in Poland to give the children the clothes worn by other, already older children. Aunts, neighbours, grandmothers, all of them bring clothes. For instance, my wife's mother receives free clothes from people where she works. What needs to be done in this case?

Rositsa Avela: To invite them on a feast. For example, you can give chocolate and say - 'Thank you very much for these clothes.' That is the most correct in that case. To take the clothes and give something in return. For the items that you have received so far, you can also give a feast.

Participant 2: There is a mediator – my wife's mother.

Rositsa Avela: Very well, you need to give her a feast as well, because she helped. The items that were given to her are foreign items for her, but when she brings them to the children, she probably wished them good, so if you want all these good wishes to happen to your children, you need to give her a feast as well.

Participant 2: That is great, I just thought that we should sell everything and buy new items.

Rositsa Avela: There are three ways for an item which is foreign to become a personal item for a person, excluding the items whose ownership is acquired by inheritance – by buying it, by working for it with his labour and by exchanging it for something personal – any item or items, including food.

In these times, however, there is one 'but'. All of the above is true, but there is one important detail. If someone or everyone in the family that gives items from their children to other children has lost his purity, then it is pointless to make a feast because even if the items become their own after the feast, these items remain highly harmful. In that case, all that has been received by them has to be sold.

 

To be continued.